The U.S. has multiple radars, drones, reconnaissance aircraft, AWACS, and satellite surveillance. The U.S. military can link these advanced radars to their Patriots and use those other radars to guide patriot missiles to hypersonic weapons, bypassing the limited built-in SAM radar. However, each KH-47 releases decoys, so some of the Patriot hits may have been on decoys, and some were on other cruise missiles launched from ships and land. The Russians are trying to destroy the Patriot systems, which would explain why they launched six KH-47's from a limited supply. Apparently only one Patriot battery was damaged. So either the Russians didn't launch six KH-47's, or else all but one was destroyed or missed. But any scenario is possible, given the streams of propaganda from both sides. Ukraine is even claiming that they shot down the KH-47's, when the world knows that it was the U.S. running the show with U.S. billion-dollar weapons systems and million dollar missiles, and trillion dollar surveillance systems.
Even if the PAC-3 somehow met the Kinzhal head-on and detonated. The Kinzhal would outrun the detonation velocity of the PAC-3 warhead, regardless. The velocity of [Mach 12] is 4083.48 m/s and the PAC-3 detonation velocity of the pre-formed fragments is approximately 1700 m/s. The moment the PAC-3 warhead detonates, The Kinzhal body is well past the blast fragments.
Let’s just put aside that this is all happening with target decoys in play; in a HEAVILY defended ECCM domain.
There is no scenario where this works.\
They are starting to work with high-intensity lasers. Easily 10 years off.
Well, I'm thinking my way through this, and going by what I can find online. So Patriot blast fragments, per google, travel at 3000 m/s. If the Patriot missile explodes beside the KH-47, the fragments have only a few meters to travel, 10 meters =1/300 of a second. 5 meters = 1/600 of a second, 2 meters = 1/1500 of a second. The KH-47 is about 7 meters long. The tip of the missile, at mach 10 (that's the rated top speed I could find) would pass a single point in about 2/1000 of a second., or 1/500 of a second. So a Patriot missile exploding near the tip of the KH-47 would destroy it, if it exploded within about 1 to 5 meters. Exploding near the tip, 5 meters away, might only tear up the tail end of the KH-47. That could explain why the pictures the Ukrainians have, show much of the missile fragments intact, if they are in fact pieces of a KH-47.
So, it is physically possible for a Patriot to destroy a KH-47. Now, logistically??? They are trying to shoot down something that travels faster than most bullets, and is incoming for only a few seconds, once it starts it's dive trajectory. The U.S. would need to be tracking the KH-47 missile very accurately, and fire the Patriot missile with very high precision in coordination with advanced tracking, in order to have a chance to destroy the hypersonic missile.
So I have to agree with you! The standard Patriot radar appears to be incapable of engaging something that's moving faster than mach 3. If they have other ways to track the missiles, the odds are certainly not good for a single Patriot missile against a single KH-47. A barrage of Patriots spread along a computed trajectory would increase the odds. I don't know if they can be used that way.
If the Russians fired multiple hypersonic missiles at the same target, some would get through. I don't know what their striking percentage is, nor their payload. It seems very likely that they will destroy every Patriot battery deployed, unless the U.S. has deployed some technology we're not aware of. Even a laser wouldn't likely work on a missile moving that fast.
So I think you're right. We're looking at a barrage of bullshit, to hide the enormous expense of deploying billion dollar weapons systems that are quickly destroyed by Russian hypersonic missiles. I'm sure that debt default won't stop the borrow/spend of the U.S. military. Cheers.
My guess is that no one outside the need-to-know group could say for sure. If they are shooting down KH-47's, it seems a certainty that other radars are being used. If they haven't linked them, then I don't see any way to reliably shoot down hypersonic missiles with a Patriot battery. You'd just have to be real lucky. The KH-47 is a formidable weapon. I suspect that the U.S. is much more actively involved than we're being told.
If you have the blood sugar to get through it. These are command-level Air Force officers, talking about missile defense and nuclear war-fighting. You can draw your own conclusions from what they're saying. For me, I get the sense they're on their back foot.
The people not only want to believe, they NEED to believe. Imagine the fallout on a personal psychological level when the lies crumble... People aren't going to willingly do that to themselves. So, they let the stories in one ear and out the other and keep on waddling through the shopping centers or sitting at home ordering UberEATS.
Well said Chris…the present situation doesn’t leave much of a role for truth tellers like ourselves. At least we can gather here and commiserate.
Ok, so what actually happened? You’re calling bullshit, but I don’t see any counter-reporting, just typo-ridden naysaying.
Typo-ridden is to make sure you don't think this is AI generated-- laughing
Can you show me the typos?
LOL 😂 good point.
I think you need to interlace your writing with profanity, grammar, and punctuation errors at this point. Laughing
The U.S. has multiple radars, drones, reconnaissance aircraft, AWACS, and satellite surveillance. The U.S. military can link these advanced radars to their Patriots and use those other radars to guide patriot missiles to hypersonic weapons, bypassing the limited built-in SAM radar. However, each KH-47 releases decoys, so some of the Patriot hits may have been on decoys, and some were on other cruise missiles launched from ships and land. The Russians are trying to destroy the Patriot systems, which would explain why they launched six KH-47's from a limited supply. Apparently only one Patriot battery was damaged. So either the Russians didn't launch six KH-47's, or else all but one was destroyed or missed. But any scenario is possible, given the streams of propaganda from both sides. Ukraine is even claiming that they shot down the KH-47's, when the world knows that it was the U.S. running the show with U.S. billion-dollar weapons systems and million dollar missiles, and trillion dollar surveillance systems.
Paul,
Even if the PAC-3 somehow met the Kinzhal head-on and detonated. The Kinzhal would outrun the detonation velocity of the PAC-3 warhead, regardless. The velocity of [Mach 12] is 4083.48 m/s and the PAC-3 detonation velocity of the pre-formed fragments is approximately 1700 m/s. The moment the PAC-3 warhead detonates, The Kinzhal body is well past the blast fragments.
Let’s just put aside that this is all happening with target decoys in play; in a HEAVILY defended ECCM domain.
There is no scenario where this works.\
They are starting to work with high-intensity lasers. Easily 10 years off.
Well, I'm thinking my way through this, and going by what I can find online. So Patriot blast fragments, per google, travel at 3000 m/s. If the Patriot missile explodes beside the KH-47, the fragments have only a few meters to travel, 10 meters =1/300 of a second. 5 meters = 1/600 of a second, 2 meters = 1/1500 of a second. The KH-47 is about 7 meters long. The tip of the missile, at mach 10 (that's the rated top speed I could find) would pass a single point in about 2/1000 of a second., or 1/500 of a second. So a Patriot missile exploding near the tip of the KH-47 would destroy it, if it exploded within about 1 to 5 meters. Exploding near the tip, 5 meters away, might only tear up the tail end of the KH-47. That could explain why the pictures the Ukrainians have, show much of the missile fragments intact, if they are in fact pieces of a KH-47.
So, it is physically possible for a Patriot to destroy a KH-47. Now, logistically??? They are trying to shoot down something that travels faster than most bullets, and is incoming for only a few seconds, once it starts it's dive trajectory. The U.S. would need to be tracking the KH-47 missile very accurately, and fire the Patriot missile with very high precision in coordination with advanced tracking, in order to have a chance to destroy the hypersonic missile.
So I have to agree with you! The standard Patriot radar appears to be incapable of engaging something that's moving faster than mach 3. If they have other ways to track the missiles, the odds are certainly not good for a single Patriot missile against a single KH-47. A barrage of Patriots spread along a computed trajectory would increase the odds. I don't know if they can be used that way.
If the Russians fired multiple hypersonic missiles at the same target, some would get through. I don't know what their striking percentage is, nor their payload. It seems very likely that they will destroy every Patriot battery deployed, unless the U.S. has deployed some technology we're not aware of. Even a laser wouldn't likely work on a missile moving that fast.
So I think you're right. We're looking at a barrage of bullshit, to hide the enormous expense of deploying billion dollar weapons systems that are quickly destroyed by Russian hypersonic missiles. I'm sure that debt default won't stop the borrow/spend of the U.S. military. Cheers.
They "can" link these systems, but do they actually do so? Just going by my years in uniform, I'm going with "probably not".
My guess is that no one outside the need-to-know group could say for sure. If they are shooting down KH-47's, it seems a certainty that other radars are being used. If they haven't linked them, then I don't see any way to reliably shoot down hypersonic missiles with a Patriot battery. You'd just have to be real lucky. The KH-47 is a formidable weapon. I suspect that the U.S. is much more actively involved than we're being told.
If you have the blood sugar to get through it. These are command-level Air Force officers, talking about missile defense and nuclear war-fighting. You can draw your own conclusions from what they're saying. For me, I get the sense they're on their back foot.
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The people not only want to believe, they NEED to believe. Imagine the fallout on a personal psychological level when the lies crumble... People aren't going to willingly do that to themselves. So, they let the stories in one ear and out the other and keep on waddling through the shopping centers or sitting at home ordering UberEATS.
Love your writing, when are you going to publish again?
Maybe when I feel safe... It's a Zoo Zoo out here!
The fog of war leaves much to speculation.